Horror/Thriller as a default, rather than first choice?

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So, my first NaNo was last year, and I ended up writing a story that was set in the modern day, had ghosts, and demonic possession, chase scenes and kidnapping, nightmares and attempted suicide. It also had a lot of character and relationship development, conversation. However, no one died, no one was even hurt very badly. There was no gore, but some suspense and mystery.

Was this really horror/thriller?

This year, I'm writing a sequel that includes an undead child, slow loss of souls, more ghosts, paranormal investigators, and musings on anger, jealousy, love, friendship and letting go.

I'm not sure these books fit in any other category, but I wonder if most horror fans would really consider it to be horror? Where else would these fit? Fantasy conjures up images of sword and sorcery, dragons and knights.

Thanks for any thoughts.

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erichris wrote:
and musings on anger, jealousy, love, friendship and letting go.

Sounds like Chick Lit to me :)
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Iapetus999 wrote:
erichris wrote:
and musings on anger, jealousy, love, friendship and letting go.

Sounds like Chick Lit to me :)

So having emotions as part of the theme of my novel disqualifies it as horror? Should it all be just detached violence then? The only relationships people are allowed involve who's on what end of the chainsaw?

Horror's all about emotion though... fear is a primal emotion. I don't think dealing with other issues makes it Chick Lit. More of the book revolves around how far gone you have to be to no longer be human, however.

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I'm...fairly certain that was sarcasm...

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erichris wrote:
So, my first NaNo was last year, and I ended up writing a story that was set in the modern day, had ghosts, and demonic possession, chase scenes and kidnapping, nightmares and attempted suicide. It also had a lot of character and relationship development, conversation. However, no one died, no one was even hurt very badly. There was no gore, but some suspense and mystery.

Was this really horror/thriller?

This year, I'm writing a sequel that includes an undead child, slow loss of souls, more ghosts, paranormal investigators, and musings on anger, jealousy, love, friendship and letting go.

I'm not sure these books fit in any other category, but I wonder if most horror fans would really consider it to be horror? Where else would these fit? Fantasy conjures up images of sword and sorcery, dragons and knights.

Thanks for any thoughts.

I don't know if it's technically horror/thriller, but sounds like it to me. My novel is urban fantasy. There's no swords, dragons, halfbreeds, etc...but the main character is transported to a negative version of our world, like a photographic negative, where he's alone with the villain, a homeless man in our world, but the ruler of the negative world. The villain is vicious, attacking the MCs mind with terrifying thoughts that exist only in the negative world. It's a little bit thriller, but I classified it fantasy, because the 'other world-ness' seems like fantasy element even if it is urban fantasy rather than the stereotypical fantasy.

Urban fantasy is set in modern day (unlike high fantasy which seems to be what you're thinking of, like Chronicles of Narnia and Lord of the Rings), and can have human like creatures, that have fantastic elements to them. All the ghosts, demon possession, etc, sounds like urban fantasy to me, mostly because urban fantasy often contains a lot of elements from the horror/thriller genre.

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Chick lit is plenty horrifying.

While I don't consider myself a horror writer, many who actually bother reading my work seem to think it is pure unadulterated horror.

And here I am, thinking I write slightly surrealistic sci-fi stories...

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erichris wrote:
Iapetus999 wrote:
erichris wrote:
and musings on anger, jealousy, love, friendship and letting go.

Sounds like Chick Lit to me :)

So having emotions as part of the theme of my novel disqualifies it as horror?


Yes.
I don't read horror stories to feel all warm and cozy while I get in touch with my feelings.
And definitely think you can never have enough chain saws attached to severed human limbs.

and dude, if you haven't figured it out yet...I'm just giving you a hard time. You stuff sounds fine for Horror.
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Nov 14, 2008 - 03 24

If you're writing horror, you're trying to evoke a particular emotional reaction in the reader.

The best way to do that is to give the reader characters they can identify with or care about.

So your characters really have to be fleshed out, well-rounded and human. Give them hopes, dreams, aspirations. Give them relationships and real lives and strong beliefs and entertaining little quirks.

Then kill 'em.

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Steve Wright wrote:

So your characters really have to be fleshed out, well-rounded and human. Give them hopes, dreams, aspirations. Give them relationships and real lives and strong beliefs and entertaining little quirks.

Then kill 'em.

I lol'ed.

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It sounds a lot like my NaNo. I have ghosts and demonic possession and until about 10 minutes ago, was thinking it was fantasy. I'm thinking it borders on horror. That's what brought me to the Horror section to browse through old threads. :-)

erichris wrote:
So, my first NaNo was last year, and I ended up writing a story that was set in the modern day, had ghosts, and demonic possession, chase scenes and kidnapping, nightmares and attempted suicide. It also had a lot of character and relationship development, conversation. However, no one died, no one was even hurt very badly. There was no gore, but some suspense and mystery.

Was this really horror/thriller?

This year, I'm writing a sequel that includes an undead child, slow loss of souls, more ghosts, paranormal investigators, and musings on anger, jealousy, love, friendship and letting go.

I'm not sure these books fit in any other category, but I wonder if most horror fans would really consider it to be horror? Where else would these fit? Fantasy conjures up images of sword and sorcery, dragons and knights.

Thanks for any thoughts.

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erichris wrote:
This year, I'm writing a sequel that includes an undead child, slow loss of souls, more ghosts, paranormal investigators, and musings on anger, jealousy, love, friendship and letting go.

I'm not sure these books fit in any other category, but I wonder if most horror fans would really consider it to be horror? Where else would these fit?

This is my dilemma too. When I started this year's novel, I didn't yet know its genre. Depending on how it evolved, and the world-building yet to come, it could potentially be SF, urban fantasy, a thriller with paranormal elements, or even mainstream with paranormal elements.

And here I am now, with the rough draft almost complete, and my story is rife with stolen souls, psychic parasites, resurrections, grievous bodily harm, and a smattering of truly gruesome events. And my MC may, very much against her will, be turning into a succubus. Like you said above,

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...the book revolves around how far gone you have to be to no longer be human.

Yes, that's it exactly. That's what my story's exploring.

And so I'm forced to wonder: is this horror? I'm thinking maybe I can hedge by calling it 'dark fantasy.'

But.

I wonder.

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Iapetus999 wrote:
. . . definitely think you can never have enough chain saws attached to severed human limbs.

Dude. If the severed limbs are attached, you need to sharpen your chainsaw. =/

To the OP, I think "dark fantasy" covers it. I consider my writing to be dark fantasy but I feel more at home with the horror kids than the fantasy crowd. A lot of dark fantasy winds up shelved in the horror section anyway.

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